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Gnosticism
Gnosis, Gnosticism
Gnosticism is the modern term used to refer to a religious and philosophical movement that originated in the first or second century A.D., that was especially strong in the second and third centuries A.D. and that was considered heretical by the majority of Christians at that time as well as the majority of the pagan bearers of the Platonic philosophical traditions (i.e., Neo-Platonists). The ancients often referred to the people of this movement as Gnostics (gnōstikoi). The movement, which was not a single, monolithic social-theological reality, emphasized at its core a special claim to special gnosis (gnōsis, knowledge); thus the terms Gnostics and Gnosticism. Until the discovery in 1945 of a large group of texts near Nag Hammadi, Egypt, most of our knowledge of the ancient Gnostics came from their opponents. With the Nag Hammadi texts (usually designated NHC, Nag Hammadi Codices [Books]), which were made available to the public between 1956 and 1977 and most of which can be identified as gnostic writings, we have for the first time in our modern period the opportunity to understand the Gnostics on their own terms.
1. Definitions and Characteristics
2. Origins and History
3. Sources and Literature
1. Definitions and Characteristics.
1.1. Definitions. Gnosticism is the modern term used to describe a religious movement or complex of movements from the Mediterranean world in the first to the fourth centuries A.D. The term Gnosticism was evidently first used by the Protestant Englishman Henry More in his 1669 work on Revelation 1–3 (An Exposition of the Seven Epistles to the Seven Churches . . . , 99, in reference to the teachings of Jezebel in Rev 2:20; see Layton, 1995).
The religious movement(s) meant to be identified by the modern term Gnosticism were variously named by the ancient sources, but the most common designation was to identify those of the movement as Gnostics (gnōstikoi), a term evidently first used by Irenaeus in the late second century. This term was used by both the church fathers and the pagan Neo-Platonic opponents of the Gnostics. The church fathers also referred to the Gnostics by the names of their leaders or teachers (e.g., Basilides; Valentinus) and by group designations based on names (e.g., Nicolaitans) or concepts (e.g., Ophites, based on the Greek term for serpent). None of the surviving primary gnostic texts shows any use of the term Gnostics as a self-designation. This should be seen, however, as no more unusual than the lack within and among the NT writings of a single self-designation (such as Christians). The Gnostics describe themselves with a host of terms and phrases drawn from their theological self-understandings (e.g., offspring of Seth; elect; enlightened ones; immovable race; the perfect).
The term Gnostics as Irenaeus’s designation for a movement arises from the place of the concept of gnōsis in the movement. Knowledge was a claim made by virtually all religious groups and movements at the time, but the Gnostics appeared to give it a major, central and distinctive role in their understanding of reality and salvation. Irenaeus and others considered the Gnostics’ gnōsis a “falsely called knowledge,â€
Gnosticism is the modern term used to refer to a religious and philosophical movement that originated in the first or second century A.D., that was especially strong in the second and third centuries A.D. and that was considered heretical by the majority of Christians at that time as well as the majority of the pagan bearers of the Platonic philosophical traditions (i.e., Neo-Platonists). The ancients often referred to the people of this movement as Gnostics (gnōstikoi). The movement, which was not a single, monolithic social-theological reality, emphasized at its core a special claim to special gnosis (gnōsis, knowledge); thus the terms Gnostics and Gnosticism. Until the discovery in 1945 of a large group of texts near Nag Hammadi, Egypt, most of our knowledge of the ancient Gnostics came from their opponents. With the Nag Hammadi texts (usually designated NHC, Nag Hammadi Codices [Books]), which were made available to the public between 1956 and 1977 and most of which can be identified as gnostic writings, we have for the first time in our modern period the opportunity to understand the Gnostics on their own terms.
1. Definitions and Characteristics
2. Origins and History
3. Sources and Literature
1. Definitions and Characteristics.
1.1. Definitions. Gnosticism is the modern term used to describe a religious movement or complex of movements from the Mediterranean world in the first to the fourth centuries A.D. The term Gnosticism was evidently first used by the Protestant Englishman Henry More in his 1669 work on Revelation 1–3 (An Exposition of the Seven Epistles to the Seven Churches . . . , 99, in reference to the teachings of Jezebel in Rev 2:20; see Layton, 1995).
The religious movement(s) meant to be identified by the modern term Gnosticism were variously named by the ancient sources, but the most common designation was to identify those of the movement as Gnostics (gnōstikoi), a term evidently first used by Irenaeus in the late second century. This term was used by both the church fathers and the pagan Neo-Platonic opponents of the Gnostics. The church fathers also referred to the Gnostics by the names of their leaders or teachers (e.g., Basilides; Valentinus) and by group designations based on names (e.g., Nicolaitans) or concepts (e.g., Ophites, based on the Greek term for serpent). None of the surviving primary gnostic texts shows any use of the term Gnostics as a self-designation. This should be seen, however, as no more unusual than the lack within and among the NT writings of a single self-designation (such as Christians). The Gnostics describe themselves with a host of terms and phrases drawn from their theological self-understandings (e.g., offspring of Seth; elect; enlightened ones; immovable race; the perfect).
The term Gnostics as Irenaeus’s designation for a movement arises from the place of the concept of gnōsis in the movement. Knowledge was a claim made by virtually all religious groups and movements at the time, but the Gnostics appeared to give it a major, central and distinctive role in their understanding of reality and salvation. Irenaeus and others considered the Gnostics’ gnōsis a “falsely called knowledge,â€
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Mas sobre el Gnosticismo
GNOSIS, GNOSTICISM
The Gnostics were followers of a variety of religious movements which stressed salvation through gnōsis, or “knowledge,â€
The Gnostics were followers of a variety of religious movements which stressed salvation through gnōsis, or “knowledge,â€
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COLOSSIANS, LETTER TO THE
Colossians, one of Paul’s shortest letters, was written to the infant church at Colossae in the Lycus valley of the province of Asia. This Christian community had not been founded by Paul but came into existence during his Ephesian ministry (c. a.d. 52–55; see Ephesus) through the efforts of Epaphras, one of his colleagues. Although not a theological treatise, Colossians has much to say about the importance of the gospel, the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, especially as Lord in creation and author of reconciliation (Col 1:15–20; see Peace, Reconciliation), the people of God, eschatology, freedom from legalism and the Christian life.
1. Colossae and Its Citizens
2. The Church at Colossae
3. The Occasion of the Letter
4. The Threat to Faith and the “Colossian Heresyâ€
Colossians, one of Paul’s shortest letters, was written to the infant church at Colossae in the Lycus valley of the province of Asia. This Christian community had not been founded by Paul but came into existence during his Ephesian ministry (c. a.d. 52–55; see Ephesus) through the efforts of Epaphras, one of his colleagues. Although not a theological treatise, Colossians has much to say about the importance of the gospel, the person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, especially as Lord in creation and author of reconciliation (Col 1:15–20; see Peace, Reconciliation), the people of God, eschatology, freedom from legalism and the Christian life.
1. Colossae and Its Citizens
2. The Church at Colossae
3. The Occasion of the Letter
4. The Threat to Faith and the “Colossian Heresyâ€
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Saludos Levita y Goku,
Levita, he borrado los aportes duplicados y deje el ultimo.
Goku, Siento que perdiste el aporte, a lo mejor el consejo abajo te puede ayudar. Cuando el sistema me da un error, a veces apretando el 'back' button en el browser me deja ver lo anteriormente escrito y asi lo envio de nuevo. Es mejor que salga doble a que se pierda totalmente. I'm sorry for the technical incoviniences (perdonen las inconveniencias tecnicas).
A Todos, traten de utilizar el boton de 'visualizar' antes de enviar su aporte para estar seguros que se ve como quieren que se vea. ADEMAS, yo tengo la costumbre en todos los foros de seleccionar todo el aporte (control + a) y luego copiarlo a la memoria de la computadora (control + c) antes de apretar el boton de 'enviar' por si las moscas. Ya he tenido algunas malas experiencias con aportes perdidos.
Bendiciones en Cristo,
VidaEterna!
Levita, he borrado los aportes duplicados y deje el ultimo.
Goku, Siento que perdiste el aporte, a lo mejor el consejo abajo te puede ayudar. Cuando el sistema me da un error, a veces apretando el 'back' button en el browser me deja ver lo anteriormente escrito y asi lo envio de nuevo. Es mejor que salga doble a que se pierda totalmente. I'm sorry for the technical incoviniences (perdonen las inconveniencias tecnicas).
A Todos, traten de utilizar el boton de 'visualizar' antes de enviar su aporte para estar seguros que se ve como quieren que se vea. ADEMAS, yo tengo la costumbre en todos los foros de seleccionar todo el aporte (control + a) y luego copiarlo a la memoria de la computadora (control + c) antes de apretar el boton de 'enviar' por si las moscas. Ya he tenido algunas malas experiencias con aportes perdidos.
Bendiciones en Cristo,
VidaEterna!
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Las Doctrinas de la Gracia
Las Doctrinas de la Gracia
Goku wrote:Como dicen en Ingles, "I rest my case".
Lo siento Levita, pero creo que has estado haciendo eisegesis en tu lectura de las fuentes.
Mejor conteste esta manera, y de mi parte, doy por concluido el tema del Gnosticismo.
Si me animo, te respondo el mensaje.
Goku.
Goku,
Dios te guarde... If you think so, you can rest your case. Honestamente no veo fructifero el argumentar historia que podemos leer claramente. Pero si te hace sentir mejor pensar asi, ok. Se hace obvio aun en su aporte que no ha logrado diferenciar lo que es Gnosticismo as per se y el origen del mismo que data, aun por sus propias fuentes al Platonismo. Pero no importa... la realidad del argumento no se sentra en que existÃa o no un definido gnosticismo, sino a la aplicación de tantos estudiosos a lo que se hace onvio en el pasaje. El menoscabo al CUERPO de Cristo.
REDENCIÓN (rescatar, liberar, volver a la red): La liberación de la esclaviÂtud del pecado, y goce de una nueva libertad, viviendo la nueva vida de los hijos de Dios, por el sacrificio de nuesÂtro Redentor Jesucristo: Habéis sido comprados a precio; no os hagáis sierÂvos de los hombres, 1 Cor.7:23.
E1 vocablo contiene la idea de la liberación, como el precio de la misma; el precio del rescate, fue la muerÂte de Cristo, Ro.3:24, Ga.3:13, Ef.1:7, 1 Ped.1:17-18.
Es "gratis", como las manos, y el sol, y el lugar de nacimiento, y los padres. ... Cristo ya firmó en el Calvario, con su Sangre, el cheque de la redención de todo hombre y mujer, de ti y de mÃ, Ef.2:8-10, Ro.3:24, Ap.22:17.
¿Como la hago propia, mÃa?: por la "fe", cambiando mi cheque en el único Banco de Cristo, que es su Iglesia, por el Sacramento del Bautismo, Ro.6, Col. 2:12... porque si tengo fe en Cristo, hago to que Él me manda hacer (Mt. 28:19, Mr. 16:16).
1- Nos libera:
- de todo mal, Ge.48:16.
- del poder del pecado, Ro.6:18,22.
- del cautiverio y maldición de la Ley Ga.3:13, 4:5.
- de todas las angustias y remordimientos del pecado> Sa1.25:22.
- de toda iniquidad, Tit.2:14, Sa1.130
- del mundo malo, Ga.1:4.
- de los enemigos, Jer.15:2, Sa1.106:10
- del sepulcro y de la muerte, Sa1.49: 15, Os. 13:14.
2-¿Qué nos da encima?:
- Una "nueva vida", ser "criaturas nueÂvas", de Jn.3:3 y 1 Cor.5:17, con la capacidad de amar y esperar con gozo y paz, llenos de la humildad, libertad, poder y seguridad de Cristo en nuesÂtros corazones (Ga1.2:20)... el poder haÂcer las mismas obras de Cristo, de Jn.14:12, el de expulsar demonios, saÂnar enfermos, resucitar los muertos de aburrimiento o desesperación, de Mr.16:17-18 y Mt.10:8.
- Ser "hijos de Dios", co-herederos de la misma herencia de Cristo (Jn.1:12, Ro.8:15-17).
- El tener "vida eterna", maravillosa, ya aquÃ, en la tierra (Jn.3:36, 5:24).
Redentor: Nuestro Señor Jesucristo, Job 19:25, Sa1.19:14, Prov.23:11, Is. 41:14, 47:4, 53:4-5, Jer.50:34, Mt.20:28, Ga.3:13, Ef.1:7, Ap.5:9.
[ REDENCION - Definida ]
¿Porqué traigo esta doctrina? Porque es el el calvario y por ese precio, donde se completa y es consumado el hecho de Cristo en su cuerpo.
¿Porqué traigo esta doctrina? Porque es el el calvario y por ese precio, donde se completa y es consumado el hecho de Cristo en su cuerpo.
Heb 11:3 "Por la fe entendemos haber sido constituido el universo por la palabra de Dios"
Cristo es Dios manifestado en carne, conforme a la enseñanza de 1ª Timoteo. El fué Dios 100% y hombre 100%, de eso depende y en eso se sustenta mi fé.
Ahora bien, conforme a las Escrituras NUNCA ENCUENTRO que "Dios murio". Es por eso mi reticencia al uso de esta expresión.
Es más, si tengo que ser escritural ... ¿y acaso no debo? ... he de ser lo más escrupuloso posible de " no pensar más de lo que está escrito" (1Co 4:6)
PermÃtame traer de nuevo el pasaje de 1Ti 3:16
"E indiscutiblemente, grande es el misterio de la piedad: Dios fue manifestado en carne, Justificado en el EspÃritu, Visto de los ángeles, Predicado a los gentiles, CreÃdo en el mundo, Recibido arriba en gloria."
Aquà el Espiritu enseña sobre la Encarnación ¿no es cierto? ... DÃgame donde se dice que "Dios murió"
Saludos en Cristo.
Cristo es Dios manifestado en carne, conforme a la enseñanza de 1ª Timoteo. El fué Dios 100% y hombre 100%, de eso depende y en eso se sustenta mi fé.
Ahora bien, conforme a las Escrituras NUNCA ENCUENTRO que "Dios murio". Es por eso mi reticencia al uso de esta expresión.
Es más, si tengo que ser escritural ... ¿y acaso no debo? ... he de ser lo más escrupuloso posible de " no pensar más de lo que está escrito" (1Co 4:6)
PermÃtame traer de nuevo el pasaje de 1Ti 3:16
"E indiscutiblemente, grande es el misterio de la piedad: Dios fue manifestado en carne, Justificado en el EspÃritu, Visto de los ángeles, Predicado a los gentiles, CreÃdo en el mundo, Recibido arriba en gloria."
Aquà el Espiritu enseña sobre la Encarnación ¿no es cierto? ... DÃgame donde se dice que "Dios murió"
Saludos en Cristo.